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🗓️ 26 March 2025
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Marty sits down with Pierre Rochard to discuss bitcoin rewriting the financial industry.
Pierre on Twitter: https://x.com/BitcoinPierrePierre on Nostr: https://primal.net/pierre
0:00 - Intro
0:36- Casinos, burrito financing and defi
12:20 - Fold & Coinkite
13:57 - Recapitalizing with better collateral
24:01 - Can bitcoin cure the degens?
32:30 - Unchained
33:31 - Smoothing volatility and lending against bitcoin
42:23 - Inter-operability for the smoothbrains
47:48 - Political engagement
58:27 - Trump's crypto EO & President Kamala
1:05:09 - Leaving crypto behind
1:15:42 - Letting people touch the stove
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0:00.0 | You've had a dynamic where money has become freer than free. |
0:10.0 | If you talk about a Fed just gone nuts, all the central banks going nuts. |
0:16.0 | So it's all acting like safe haven. |
0:18.0 | I believe that in a world where central bankers are tripping over themselves to devalue their |
0:23.5 | currency, Bitcoin wins. |
0:25.3 | In the world of fiat currencies, Bitcoin is the victor. |
0:29.2 | I mean, that's part of the bold case for Bitcoin. |
0:31.8 | If you're not paying attention, you probably should be. |
0:36.2 | Our casino is the pinnacle of the high-velocity trash economy. |
0:40.9 | They can be. |
0:42.8 | I think that if you're able to enjoy them in moderation, like anything else, right, |
0:49.7 | that can have a role. |
0:51.6 | And if you go back and look at like golden ages, |
0:54.5 | you've got, yeah, good culture around it. |
0:59.7 | But if it just turns into like Mimar, |
1:02.7 | the slot machine like pushing the button robotically, |
1:06.9 | that's grim. |
1:08.5 | Yeah, we used to travel a lot to the Midwest for lacrosse in college club |
1:15.7 | lacrosse so we would caravan I would drive the van and every year we'd end up in St. Louis |
1:21.4 | in the St. Louis, the greater St. Louis area and one night we would go to the casinos and that's |
1:27.0 | exactly what it was was |
1:28.1 | grandmas and grandpa's smoking cigarettes just mindlessly clicking the slot machine very |
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