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TFTC: A Bitcoin Podcast

#601: The Bitcoinization of Finance with Pierre Rochard

TFTC: A Bitcoin Podcast

Marty Bent

Technology

4.8764 Ratings

🗓️ 26 March 2025

⏱️ 86 minutes

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Summary

Marty sits down with Pierre Rochard to discuss bitcoin rewriting the financial industry.


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0:00 - Intro

0:36- Casinos, burrito financing and defi

12:20 - Fold & Coinkite

13:57 - Recapitalizing with better collateral

24:01 - Can bitcoin cure the degens?

32:30 - Unchained

33:31 - Smoothing volatility and lending against bitcoin

42:23 - Inter-operability for the smoothbrains

47:48 - Political engagement

58:27 - Trump's crypto EO & President Kamala

1:05:09 - Leaving crypto behind

1:15:42 - Letting people touch the stove


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0:00.0

You've had a dynamic where money has become freer than free.

0:10.0

If you talk about a Fed just gone nuts, all the central banks going nuts.

0:16.0

So it's all acting like safe haven.

0:18.0

I believe that in a world where central bankers are tripping over themselves to devalue their

0:23.5

currency, Bitcoin wins.

0:25.3

In the world of fiat currencies, Bitcoin is the victor.

0:29.2

I mean, that's part of the bold case for Bitcoin.

0:31.8

If you're not paying attention, you probably should be.

0:36.2

Our casino is the pinnacle of the high-velocity trash economy.

0:40.9

They can be.

0:42.8

I think that if you're able to enjoy them in moderation, like anything else, right,

0:49.7

that can have a role.

0:51.6

And if you go back and look at like golden ages,

0:54.5

you've got, yeah, good culture around it.

0:59.7

But if it just turns into like Mimar,

1:02.7

the slot machine like pushing the button robotically,

1:06.9

that's grim.

1:08.5

Yeah, we used to travel a lot to the Midwest for lacrosse in college club

1:15.7

lacrosse so we would caravan I would drive the van and every year we'd end up in St. Louis

1:21.4

in the St. Louis, the greater St. Louis area and one night we would go to the casinos and that's

1:27.0

exactly what it was was

1:28.1

grandmas and grandpa's smoking cigarettes just mindlessly clicking the slot machine very

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