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🗓️ 21 April 2025
⏱️ 135 minutes
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Marty sits down with Matt Pines to discuss Skywatcher's efforts to gather empirical data on UAPs.
Matt Pines on Twitter: https://x.com/matthew_pines
Skywatcher: https://skywatcher.ai
Bitcoin Policy Summit: https://www.btcpolicysummit.org/
0:00 - Intro
0:37 - US disclosure posture
9:09 - Skywatcher
17:13 - Fold & Coinkite
18:44 - How the data is collected
23:33 - Unchained
24:02 - What attracts UAPs
35:40 - Consciousness
54:27 - Govt psychics
57:54 - Geopolitical implications & triple hockey stick
1:10:41 - AI
1:17:41 - Will Trump build China Lite?
1:30:32 - Exopolitics
1:37:09 - Is bitcoin the great filter?
1:42:45 - Matt’s having fun
1:48:45 - Quantum breakthrough implications
2:09:59 - Bitcoin Policy Summit
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0:00.0 | You've had a dynamic where money has become freer than free. |
0:10.0 | If you talk about a Fed just gone nuts, all the central banks going nuts. |
0:16.0 | So it's all acting like safe haven. |
0:18.0 | I believe that in a world where central bankers are tripping over themselves to devalue their currency, |
0:24.4 | Bitcoin wins. |
0:25.3 | In the world of fiat currencies, Bitcoin is the victor. |
0:29.2 | I mean, that's part of the bold case for Bitcoin. |
0:31.8 | If you're not paying attention, you probably should be. |
0:36.1 | So the government's admitting that we have the ability to manipulate space and time. |
0:42.9 | And Skywatchers out there trying to summon UAPs. |
0:46.8 | What the hell is going on? |
0:49.2 | You just fell to the wrong timeline, my friend. |
0:51.8 | Or the right one, depending on your perspective. |
0:54.9 | Was that admission by the Trump administration this week, part of disclosure, late disclosure? |
1:02.5 | What are we classifying that as? |
1:05.0 | I mean, my thesis for some time has been the government will adopt an attitude, I think more out of necessity and constraint |
1:13.9 | of what I would call as if disclosure, meaning they will increasingly be acting as if |
1:21.9 | this subject is true without ever really, or at least not immediately, you know, confirming or affirming, it's true. |
1:32.4 | So you have episodes like that speech, which, you know, Kratios is the head of Office of Science and Technology Policy. |
1:40.1 | He was formerly, basically the head of the all advanced research inside the defense department, including DARPA, as well as other, you know, our most highly classified, highly sensitive research projects in the Pentagon. |
1:54.1 | You know, there's a metaphorical interpretation of that language. |
1:58.3 | Some folks thought it was alluding to technologies that close the gap for human |
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