Welcome to the Council of Trend Podcast, a production of Catholic Answers.

Unless the measuring rod is independent of the things measured, we can do no measuring.

CS Lewis, the Poison of Subjectivism.

This is Pints with Jack, Season 5, Episode 45, the moral argument.

So Tranthorn, welcome to Pints with Jack.

Thank you so much for having me.

Well, I'm excited this episode because we plan out these seasons many, many, many months

in advance.

And David is the organized one and he put together everything and he asked about do this

one because he knows mere Christianity, the beginning part is a lot of this more argument.

And it's one that I don't want to say I wasn't convinced with, but it was one I struggled

with a little bit more.

And so I think he thought it would be funny if I'm the one that has to lead the episode

on the argument that I struggle with the most, which put an added pressure because as a

person guiding this conversation, I felt like I had to make sure I understood all of the

difference avenues.

So this weekend I was sitting here reading article after article after article pro against

and trying to just make sure I understood at least high level.

But that's also helpful for you to talk about this argument if you're not entirely convinced

by it because then you're not a yes man.

And I think that's important in the world of apologetics and the world defending the

faith.

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