Welcome to this week's episode of the Modern Mentor Podcast. I'm your host, Rachel Cook.

In today's episode, I have the pleasure of speaking with Dr. Greg Hammer. He's an intensive

care physician, Stanford University

professor, and author of the book, Gain Without Pain, the Happiness Handbook for Medical

Professionals. Today, he shares with us his simple four-part framework for overcoming burnout

and finding your healthy place. But before we hear that interview, I posed a question this week to diversity in the

workplace expert, Irshad Manji.

I asked her, how might a hiring leader consider someone's cultural fit on a team without

leaning into biases?

And here's what she had to say. In two words, confident humility.

You as the hiring leader would be wise to show confident humility by asking one question at the end

of the final interview with the candidate. About the process that my team and I took you through, has that process

revealed any biases to you? You can assure the candidate that this is not a gotcha question,

but one that you and the team would like to learn from in the spirit of being humble enough to be

critiqued and confident enough to grow. Depending on how the candidate replies, you'll be able to gauge all kinds of things that

show whether that candidate can embrace and even evolve the culture of the workplace.

How does the candidate handle spontaneity and surprise?

Do they see it as awkwardness or awesomeness or both? Do they seize on the

opportunity to express themselves? And how do they express themselves? With humility of their own? With

reckless abandon? Somewhere in between? Beauty is, the question itself leads to teachable moments for everyone, the candidate,

as well as the hiring team. And now the interview with Dr. Greg Hammer. Well, Greg, thank you so

much for joining me today on the Modern Mentor podcast. I think that what you study and what you

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