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Dolls of Our Lives

62: The One Where Kaya Learns Many Lessons: Kaya’s Escape

Dolls of Our Lives

Allison Horrocks and Mary Mahoney

Society & Culture, History

4.91.1K Ratings

🗓️ 3 May 2021

⏱️ 69 minutes

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Summary

In the second Kaya book, the American Girl team breaks format, and also places our protagonist in great danger. Instead of learning just one big lesson, Kaya learns many. After Kaya and her sister are kidnapped, Kaya has to use her smarts to plot an escape. Our coverage discusses Kaya’s enslavement and what this book teaches us about 18c life for Kaya’s people. We also shed light on the team behind these books and discuss alternative narratives by indigenous authors. Finally, we consider the relevance of Rutherford Falls and Rebecca Black’s ten-year anniversary remix of Friday.

An important word about content for our listeners: this book features upsetting themes including kidnapping, slavery, animal abuse, and threats of violence. We discuss these themes in the context of the book and history.

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Mary, we've just been graced with a pink super moon and I have a really important question for you.

0:05.1

I'm listening as I often do in these openings. So I want you to think back on your personal

0:11.2

catalog and I would like you to be reflective for a moment about the first time that you heard

0:16.7

Rebecca Black's Friday. Were you thinking about JFK the first time you heard it? Did that come

0:22.3

for you later, etc? Yeah, always. I mean, the line sitting in the front seat, sitting in the back

0:29.6

when you're waiting at the bus stop, it's like it asks one of those great questions or mysteries

0:34.0

that never get solved. Like, why are you at the bus stop if you're going to be given a ride to

0:38.4

school on a car the whole time? You know what I mean? It's an intervention in a critical way.

0:43.7

I do also need to know, upon this 10 year anniversary, where were you the first time you heard

0:49.5

that there is a decade remix? I was in this chair two minutes ago when you dropped that on me.

0:57.4

Yeah, I did. I did. Wow. You also told me she was gay and I'm like, I'm shocked. I didn't know.

1:04.5

It's Friday. It's Friday. Wow. She's in love. I don't know.

1:27.1

I

1:46.8

welcome everyone to American Girls The Podcast. This is the podcast where we're reliving

1:51.6

the American Girl Series book by book. I'm Mary. I'm still Alison. Wow. Alison, like, you hit us with,

1:57.9

you know, one of, I don't know, she's one of the great American girls of the 21st century,

2:01.7

but she's an American girl of the 21st century. Yeah, I mean, how much her life has changed

2:07.1

and that gap between her debut as a 13-year-old to now her second debut as a 23-year-old? I think

2:14.2

she's wonderful. I think she's up to some good stuff. I actually like Friday's a song. I'm not

2:18.4

ashamed to admit that. And, you know, I just listened to the first 30 seconds of personal,

2:22.6

her new single. You and I both were dancing along to that right here. And, you know, now finding out

2:28.4

that she's a queer person, I feel compelled to support her whatever direction this is going in. But,

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