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629. How Is Live Theater Still Alive?

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🗓️ 11 April 2025

⏱️ 60 minutes

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Summary

It has become fiendishly expensive to produce, and has more competition than ever. And yet the believers still believe. Why? And does the world really want a new musical about ... Abraham Lincoln?! (Part one of a three-part series.)

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0:00.0

Making something out of nothing is hard.

0:05.0

In the beginning, all you have is your imagination.

0:09.0

It's your only tool, your only muscle.

0:13.0

But if you are determined and lucky, that thing in your imagination can become real.

0:21.9

And then if you are very lucky, people will pay to see it.

0:36.1

There's been theater since the beginning of man, really.

0:39.5

What is theater?

0:40.8

What is going to theater and being in a theater?

0:43.8

What is it?

0:44.5

What happens?

0:45.2

What transpires at that moment?

0:48.8

It's the same as the oldest human endeavor of all, which is gossip.

0:55.9

Theater is gossip.

0:58.1

This is a crazy idea I know, except that it's true.

1:02.5

What do you do when you go to the theater?

1:04.4

You overhear conversations.

1:06.5

It's staged, but people are talking to each other, and you're listening to them.

1:11.6

You're making assessments about their moral character, about their intentions, about what's going to happen.

1:15.5

This guy's not trustworthy. She's ambitious and is concealing it. He's got designs on this.

1:21.1

There's nothing more human and more basic to what human beings do than observing people interact

1:27.3

and talking about it among themselves,

1:29.1

gossiping. So theater is the most fundamental art of all. That is Rocco Landisman. I'm a Broadway

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