646 - Erin Ginder-Shaw (Depth Psychology)

Tangentially Speaking with Christopher Ryan

Chris Ryan

Society & Culture, Arts

4.8 • 2.3K Ratings

🗓️ 2 April 2025

⏱️ 56 minutes

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Summary

Erin is closing in on her PhD in Depth Psychology at Pacifica Graduate Institute. We’ve been very close since 1/1/16 and she’s one of my all-time favorite people. If I get arrested and have one call, her phone might be ringing. She’ll be joining us at the Becoming Uncivilized event at the Budokon compound this summer. Consider joining us!

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0:00.0	Radio Mano, Papa Chango Hello, ladies and gentlemen, welcome to episode 646.
0:34.2	Holy shit, 646 of tangentially speaking.
0:41.3	I'm your host, Chris Ryan.
0:45.1	Still sounds weird to say my own name.
0:48.5	Does it sound weird to say your name?
0:51.3	I mean, you'd think if there's anything you'd be used to, it would be the sound of your
0:56.5	own name. But I don't know. It still sounds weird. Anyway, this is one of my favorite episodes
1:05.9	because it's one of my favorite people. And one of my favorite things to do is share my favorite people with you.
1:13.9	So here we go. This is Aaron Jinder Shaw. She is someone I've known for about 10 years.
1:27.1	More or less, I'm not good at that sort of calculation,
1:30.3	but I think she is, she knows like, oh, we met in 2017, and like she thinks that way.
1:37.2	Anyway, I've known Aaron in a long time, and we have had different relationship manifestations over the years but whatever was going on
1:54.9	we have always been really good friends and yeah I love. She's awesome. She's so smart and so deep and so real
2:06.4	and so funny and quirky and she's just wonderful. A lot of you will know her because she and
2:17.4	Anya did a podcast for years called Hoare Pore,
2:22.6	where they sort of challenged conventional views of sexuality and femininity and masculinity
2:29.8	and all sorts of stuff.
2:31.3	And that podcast is still available, I believe.
2:33.9	It's still up there floating around in the cloud.
2:38.2	But they sort of phased that out when Aaron got into grad school
2:44.4	and decided to get serious and focus on her Ph.D., which she's honing in on at the moment in depth psychology,
2:59.5	which we will talk about in this episode.
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