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The Agile Brand with Greg Kihlstrom

#649: How to look at ROAS with Mitsu Kikuchi and Rocco Baldasarre of Shirofune

The Agile Brand with Greg Kihlstrom

The Agile Brand

Business, Marketing

52.7K Ratings

🗓️ 12 March 2025

⏱️ 20 minutes

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Summary

We are here at eTail Palm Springs and seeing and hearing the latest and greatest in e-commerce and retail. In digital advertising, are we chasing the wrong metrics? While short-term ROAS might look impressive, are we missing the bigger picture—whether those customers actually return? What happens when we shift our focus to Lifetime ROAS instead? Today, I’m joined by Mitsunaga (Mitsu) Kikuchi, CEO of Shirofune and Rocco Baldasarre, Head of Business Development for Shirofune in the USA. Shirofune is a leading digital advertising automation platform that has transformed how advertisers optimize campaigns with long-term growth in mind. Shirofune helps brands reduce ad management time by 50% while unlocking greater ad performance beyond just short-term wins. Mitsunaga Kikuchi is the CEO and Founder of Shirofune, an automated advertising management tool that maximizes the efficiency and productivity of major digital advertising platforms. He joined CyberAgent, the largest digital agency in Japan in 2006 as a new graduate and in a few years, became the Director and the representative of a subsidiary (CA Advance). There he was responsible for providing the in-house ad management system and operational scheme to hundreds of Ad managers at CyberAgent. From the experience at CyberAgent, he then decided to develop a platform which automates the works done by those Ad managers so that anyone, with the limited knowledge, could get the same results from online advertising as what a professional Ad manager brings. Shirofune is an automated advertising management tool that maximizes the efficiency and productivity of major digital advertising platforms. The Shirofune platform is designed to maximize advertising effectiveness by automating day-to-day digital ad campaigns using a single, easy-to-use interface for management, budgeting, monitoring and analytics. Over 10,000 accounts have been automated using Shirofune, including 300,000 active ad campaigns. As Head of Business Development for Shirofune in the USA, Rocco Baldasarre leads the charge in expanding the company's market presence and driving strategic growth. With a focus on establishing Shirofune’s footprint in the U.S., Rocco builds and nurtures strategic partnerships with key industry players, eCommerce platforms, and advertising agencies to foster collaboration and mutual success. He develops and implements forward-thinking business strategies, aligning with Shirofune's mission and growth goals. A dedicated leader, Rocco mentors a high-performing business development team, identifies new revenue opportunities, and ensures customer success by tailoring solutions that maximize client value. RESOURCES eTail Palm Springs: https://etailwest.wbresearch.com/ Don't Miss MAICON 2025, October 14-16 in Cleveland - the event bringing together the brights minds and leading voices in AI. Use Code AGILE150 for $150 off registration. Go here to register: https://bit.ly/agile150 Connect with Greg on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gregkihlstrom Don't miss a thing: get the latest episodes, sign up for our newsletter and more: https://www.theagilebrand.show Check out The Agile Brand Guide website with articles, insights, and Martechipedia, the wiki for marketing technology: https://www.agilebrandguide.com The Agile Brand podcast is brought to you by TEKsystems. Learn more here: https://www.teksystems.com/versionnextnow The Agile Brand is produced by Missing Link—a Latina-owned strategy-driven, creatively fueled production co-op. From ideation to creation, they craft human connections through intelligent, engaging and informative content. https://www.missinglink.company

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Welcome to Season 7 of the Agile brand, where we discuss the trends and topics marketing leaders need to know. Stay curious, stay agile, and join the top enterprise brands and Martec platforms as we explore marketing technology,

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Together we'll discover what it takes to create an Agile brand, built for today and tomorrow,

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We are here at E-Tel Palm Springs and seeing and hearing the latest and greatest in e-commerce and retail.

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