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🗓️ 24 April 2025
⏱️ 51 minutes
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In this episode, we unpack Paradigm’s groundbreaking 2025 report, “TradFi Tomorrow: DeFi and the Rise of Extensible Finance,” with Paradigm’s Dan Robinson and Justin Slaughter.
We explore the stunning stat that 66% of traditional financial institutions are actively engaged with DeFi—and what that really means. From tokenization and stablecoins to regulatory clarity and decentralized exchanges, this conversation dives deep into how Wall Street is already integrating with crypto.
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TIMESTAMPS
0:00 Intro
7:10 What Constitutes a TradFi Firm
10:13 TradFi Firms with Defi
12:16 What's Exciting about this Report?
13:53 Stablecoins, Tokenization & More
18:54 Public Blockchains & TradFi?
21:05 “Tokenize The World” Moment?
27:47 TradFi’s Long-Term Outlook
33:19 The Formal Rejection of Private Blockchains
38:31 What’s Left for Regulation &Compliance
45:04 DeFi vs TradFi
48:07 User Value
50:55 Closing & Disclaimers
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RESOURCES
Paradigm Report
https://www.paradigm.xyz/2025/03/tradfi-tomorrow-defi-and-the-rise-of-extensible-finance
Dan Robinson
https://x.com/danrobinson
Justin Slaughter
https://x.com/JBSDC
Paradigm
https://x.com/paradigm
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0:00.0 | Defi is a concept of something that does not exist in TradFi, which is the idea of permissionless peer-to-peer engagement and networks. |
0:09.4 | That is something that there is nothing that's analogous for in analog. |
0:14.0 | Tradfi, they see this as more than just a tokenization machine. |
0:17.7 | They seem pretty open to the whole panoply of what Defi can offer. |
0:25.1 | Welcome to Bankless. We explore the frontier of internet money and internet finance. And today |
0:29.7 | we're exploring a survey done by the Paradigm policy team, which investigated exactly where |
0:34.5 | institutions are on that frontier of internet money and finance. |
0:38.5 | 300 Tradfai professionals were pulled by paradigm and asked questions about their engagement level |
0:43.0 | with crypto. Are they just researching or are they actively getting involved? |
0:47.0 | If they are getting involved, how? tokenization, stable coins, leveraging defy infrastructure |
0:52.1 | like Dex's and borrowing and lending apps, why are they |
0:55.1 | getting involved? To cut costs, settlement times, transparency, what motivates their engagement |
0:59.9 | with crypto? And also, my favorite, what do they think about DeFi? And maybe to tease a punchline, |
1:05.7 | I was surprised by the sheer percentage of TradFi companies that consider defy to be critically important to their |
1:12.2 | business in the future. Dan Robinson and Justin Slaughter from Paradigm are with me on the episode today |
1:17.3 | to go through their report slide by slide. So if you're listening to this podcast, you should know that we are |
1:21.9 | sharing these slides visually on Spotify or YouTube on the video. So if you want to get the full effect |
1:27.4 | of a very bullish report, you should go check that |
1:29.5 | out. |
1:29.7 | But also, if you're just out and about listening, we explain it pretty well. |
1:32.1 | So it should work just as well that way as well. |
1:34.6 | So let's go ahead and get right into the podcast with Justin and Dan from Paradine. |
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