Hello and welcome to Iroquois History and Legends, the history show where we talk about the history

of the six nations of the Iroquois and how they influenced the world. This week, we are pleased

to be joined by Peter Jesser Smith, a journalist and researcher extraordinaire. So welcome to the show, Pete.

Well, thank you, Andrew. It's been actually a dream of mine to be on here.

Well, I'm glad that we can continue to make little boys' dreams come true.

Yes.

Anyway, we've started all the way from the history of the indigenous people of North America,

from prehistory, and now we've worked up into the post-Civil War era. But this week, we're

going to jump back in time about 200 or so years to talk about somebody we wanted to talk about

back in the day, but felt like we really didn't know that much about

her because it's really hard to find stuff about her because the details are very muddled.

Yes.

And anything you say about this person can sometimes be a lightning rod against different groups of people.

Very much so.

Even how to pronounce her name. So who is the lovely young woman we'll be discussing today?

We're going to be talking about St. Cattery de Cuetha. That's how her name would be in English.

Mohawk is Gadda Di Gaguita. There's a couple different meanings or renderings for her name mohawk scholar darren bonaparte

that she puts things in their place so she's an organized person one of her nicknames is a lily of the

mohawk but darren bonaparte describes her as a lily among thorns and that kind of stings a little bit

no pun intended with all these these names, you know,

you have Mohawk parents who are picking up on different things about their children, trying to

understand what is, what is that name? You know, what is it that is going to tell us something about

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