Hey this is John and this is Craig. So today's episode was recorded last night at the

Austin Film Festival and we enjoy doing live shows. It's fun to have a big crowd come

out. Yeah and we did have a big crowd. We did have a big crowd. So whenever we do one of these live shows,

Matthew Chilley, our brave editor,

has to go through and try to make it make sense

for what was in the room versus what you're hearing in your ears.

And last night's episode, and the message you're about to listen to is

probably a little bit more confusing than other things so that's why we have this

sort of explanatory introductory note Craig do you want to talk about the lights

I will we'll try to cut out,

and he mentioned the lights, but the lights were weird.

Yeah, or now that people know we can just leave that in

and they can experience our confusion in real time.

So it's sort of, we're in the Stephen Austin Hotel in Austin and it's like a ballroom.

Lots of big lights, chandeliery lights that are set for a certain mood.

I guess the mood this night was a podcast.

Yeah.

And at some point, they just started changing.

They got really bright,

and then they went really dark. And then they got back to normal and then like

five minutes later they went really yellow and then really orange and I

honestly thought I was losing my mind. Yeah it was sort of like if you've been in Caesar's Palace

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