4.8 • 2.7K Ratings
🗓️ 11 February 2025
⏱️ 61 minutes
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Craig welcomes writer and showrunner Joshua Zetumer, creator of the limited series Say Nothing, to explore the process of dramatizing real events — particularly when the subject matter can be volatile. They discuss how to keep a sprawling historical epic from feeling like a lecture, keeping a consistent tone, humanizing complicated people, and how not to get sued by the people who were really involved.
They also answer listener questions on following up with people after the fires, charting the emotional journey of the audience, and whether writers need to cite their sources when writing about real events.
In our bonus segment for premium members, Craig and Joshua pretend to be civil engineers and ask, how can we make Los Angeles function better?
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0:00.0 | Hey, this is John. A standard warning for people who are in the car with their kids. |
0:04.6 | There's some swearing in this episode. |
0:09.1 | Hello and welcome. My name is Craig Mason, and this is Script Notes, a podcast about screenwriting and things that are interesting to screenwriters. |
0:17.8 | Today on the show, I will be solo hosting, but joined by the creator and showrunner |
0:22.3 | of FX's Say Nothing, Joshua Zedimer. We'll talk about that show, which is one of my favorites of |
0:28.4 | 2024, if not my favorite of 2024, as well as answer some listener questions. And in our |
0:34.8 | bonus segment for premium members, and this is probably going to be a surprise to Joshua, |
0:38.7 | he and I will put on our urban planner and civil engineer hats to answer what I think is a fairly easy question. |
0:45.2 | How would we make Los Angeles function better? |
0:48.5 | Joshua, welcome to the show. |
0:50.5 | Thank you for having me. |
0:51.6 | I've listened to the show. |
0:52.9 | I love the show. |
0:53.7 | And I'm a big fan of yours as well. So I'm really excited to be here. Oh, go on. No, I mean, I can go on. I can go on. I mean, Chernoble. I'll just say one thing, which was Chernobyl was very much a model in my mind in how to do a limited series right and was a huge influence on say nothing. |
1:14.6 | So, you know, be excited to talk to you about that. |
1:16.6 | Well, we will get into that. Whatever influenced you, tip of the hat, because as I said, it was one of my favorite shows of 2024. |
1:25.6 | I think it's a fantastic show and I really want to dig into, you know, from the writing point of view, how you put it together |
1:31.0 | and ask you some interesting questions about both the nature of your process and the show |
1:36.4 | itself, the story. |
1:37.7 | But before we do that, so interesting little bits of biographic detail on you. |
1:42.8 | First, your parents are both psychiatrists. |
1:45.2 | So I think I'm really, really sorry, but I'm not sure. I think that's better than therapists, |
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