Hey, this is John. A standard warning for people who are in the car with their kids. There's some swearing in this episode.

Hello and welcome. My name is John August. My name is Craig Mason. And you're listening to Script Notes. It's a podcast about screenwriting and things that are interesting to screenwriters. Today on the show, how do you approach the second season of the acclaimed TV show you created?

It's a question asked by roughly 1% of our listening audience. And yet the answer is surprisingly relevant to anyone dealing with the pressures of expectations and reality.

It's relevant to 66% of the people right now on this podcast. Which is so odd to have you both here.

We will also answer listener questions about transitioning from journalism to screenwriting

and what to do when you realize that someone else is making something with the same premise.

To help us do all this, we have a very special guest.

Tony Gilroy is the writer and director of movies such as Michael Clayton, Duplicity, The Born

Legacy.

He also wrote The Born Identity, Born Supremacy, born ultimatum, devil's advocate, Rogue One, and of course

the cutting edge of D.B. Sweeney, most relevant to today's episode, Tony is also the creator

and showrunner of Andor, which starts his second season on April 22nd. Welcome to Script Notes,

Tony Gilroy. It is a pleasure to be here.

It really is.

I've been listening, so it's nice to be someplace where you've visited.

It is startling and disturbing.

Well, it's very flattering.

Tony Gilroy, for those of you who follows screenwriting, needs no introduction,

even though John gave him one.

But if you're a casual listener, let me explain

we've got one of the all-time great first ballot hall of famers here with us today.

And weirdly, Tony, your name has come up so much recently on the show because after our Moneyball

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