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The elites are completely delusional about what's happening in terms of climate change.

Meanwhile, they fly in 400 private jets, a record number of private jets. It's all of the

douchebags, you know, in a single conference. You know, I kind of go, are they really that tone

death? Or are they actually doing, is this a kind of performance of performing their superiority?

There's so much pageantry here, a self-celebration, the narcissism, the histrionics,

and of course, all of their agendas falling apart around them.

Hello, and welcome to the Brendan O'Neill show with me, Brendan O'Neill. This is a podcast in

which an esteemed guest joins me to talk about the big ideas, the bad ideas, the problems,

and the controversies of life in the early 21st century. In this episode, I am delighted to be

joined by returning guest Michael Schellenberger. Michael is a commentator and author based in the US.

He has written extensively on environmentalism and he has played a key role in challenging the

more apocalyptic claims of climate change activists. He co-founded the Breakthrough Institute

and Environmental Research Center based in California, and he later set up environmental

progress, which argues, among other things, for the embrace of nuclear power as a clean source of

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