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Hi this is Hugh here from the imperfect podcast where podcast where we chat to well known people whose lives seem perfect from the outside

but through our discussions they share the vulnerabilities and imperfections that make them who they are.

We chat to people like Gary Barlow, Elizabeth Day and my cricketing hero, Pat Cummins.

I reckon the hardest time of my life easily. I remember that for those two weeks like I don't want to be going

and play in front of millions of people and everything gets picked

apart like I just want to be the kid who's sitting there with mom and dad.

Search the imperfects podcast on the app you are currently listening on. And the Boom we're on. Today's guess we've got Big Brian Cockro. How about we brother?

I'm very pleased to meet you met. Yeah it's really good to see you Brian.

First of all thanks for coming on the show. But thank you for having me on the show. Yeah,

I used to call you the tax man. That's correct. One in Britain's toughest men alive.

Yeah. You've got a very colourful past. Britain's toughest men alive. So they say.

Yeah, you've got a very colourful past.

Yes.

You've had over a thousand burn-knuckle fights.

Yeah, straight fights.

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