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🗓️ 23 January 2025
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Chris Sacca is the co-founder of Lowercarbon Capital and manages a portfolio of countless startups in energy, industrial materials, and carbon removal. If it's unf**king the planet, he's probably working on it. Previously, Chris founded Lowercase Capital, one of history's most successful funds ever, primarily known for its very early investments in companies like Twitter, Uber, Instagram, Twilio, Docker, Optimizely, Blue Bottle Coffee, and Stripe. But you might just know him as the guy who wore those ridiculous cowboy shirts for a few seasons of Shark Tank. To purchase Chris's ranch, schedule a viewing at FivePondsRanch.com.
P.S. This episode features a special, one-of-a-kind introduction that Chris recorded of yours truly. :)
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Timestamps:
[00:00] Coming up
[06:47] Chris introduces me.
[11:07] Some Sacca background.
[18:32] Raising pre-teen gamblers and tailgating troublemakers.
[19:54] Conscious changes and rethoughts since our first interview.
[26:12] The personal and professional influence of Rich and Sarah Barton.
[30:18] Property management and the Zen of Kevin Rose.
[35:12] Zillow Gone Wild.
[36:58] Simplifications.
[45:03] Remaining optimistic despite being in the business of saying no.
[51:33] Living in the finite without +1 obligations.
[56:54] “Wait, what’s hustle culture?”
[59:48] The (lack of) trouble with kids today.
[01:09:53] Raising kids to solve problems and eschew smartphones.
[01:14:15] Rawdogging? You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
[01:16:05] An Andy Goldsworthy aside.
[01:16:30] Taking advice from R. Buckminster Fuller GPT.
[01:19:13] Assigned reading.
[01:20:10] Humans vs. AI.
[01:26:20] What happens to people stuck between AI job displacement and a broken social contract?
[01:42:38] Counting on the human craving to convene and connect.
[01:56:30] What kind of business would a younger Chris start today?
[02:00:44] The prescience of The Medium is the Massage.
[02:01:39] What does Lowercarbon Capital do?
[02:08:44] Projects Chris is most excited about.
[02:18:59] Youthful mischief and flim-flammery.
[02:24:51] The premise for Chris’ upcoming No Permanent Record.
[02:35:25] Cultivating the ability to face (and maybe win over) a tough crowd.
[02:39:19] Chris expresses some concerns about this episode.
[02:40:24] Recommended reading.
[02:45:07] A worthwhile purchase of $100 or less.
[02:48:03] Deez Crocs.
[02:50:48] Sabotaging potential dates with authenticity.
[02:59:11] Parting thoughts.
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0:00.0 | coming up in this episode. |
0:02.5 | And I need to memorialize these things for the benefit of humanity before we're all obviated, |
0:09.1 | like these kids who have these incredible GPAs and this test taking, I think it might be |
0:13.7 | useless. I think they might have optimized for useless skills. And I think the only thing that |
0:18.5 | might keep us going is that randomness, that unpredictability, |
0:21.7 | those flaws, those fuckups, the things that make us banged up, the things where we make |
0:26.2 | bad decisions, where we're self-indulgent. I've had to teach our team. The number one thing |
0:31.2 | you can be in this business is unpredictable. Feed into the fact I am known as mercurial. |
0:36.6 | I burn bridges. I will not hesitate to |
0:38.8 | fucking fight you. I wear the stupid shirts. I don't give a shit about much. I've been known |
0:43.5 | to just light it on fire. And guess what? People take me seriously as a result. I haven't backed |
0:49.3 | down from all those fucking character flaws I have that are very self-destructive. But I am all gas, |
0:55.7 | no fucking breaks, as you know. Although in our line, we call it no gas, no brakes. But we need |
1:00.8 | to cultivate more of that if we have any hope as a fucking species. We just need to. I'm sorry. |
1:10.2 | Hello, boys and girls, ladies and germs. This is Tim Ferriss. Welcome to another episode of The Tim Ferriss Show. And my guest today is a repeat guest. Last time he was on in conversation was 2015, so a lot has changed since then. His name is Chris Saga. Chris is the co-founder of lower carbon capital and an accomplished |
1:28.5 | venture investor, company advisor, and entrepreneur managing a portfolio of countless technology, |
1:33.5 | communication, and consumer product startups through his firm lowercase capital. That's a sentence. |
1:39.6 | And he actually gave me some disclosure in our conversation. He was worried about this intro because |
1:46.6 | he knew I would be recording this intro after the fact. And there are some things not in his |
1:51.7 | official bio. His trading of commodities contracts related to live hogs, which we actually get into |
1:58.7 | his record setting number of Fbs in this particular episode. |
2:03.9 | But let me return to the official bio for just a second. Alongside his wife, Crystal, Chris grew |
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