Two, one. And we're live. Mr. West. Mr. Brogan.

Pleasure to have you here in person. Doing it on Skype was fun and it was nice and

you are to this day the only podcast I've ever done on

Skype. Really? Yep. Yeah. But I just I had to talk to you. Like if you couldn't

get down here there's got to be a way so it was nice to be able to do it that way, but much nicer

to see you here in person.

And much better to be here in person, and actually what's responsible for being here in person

is that I wouldn't actually come all this huge distance even to be on

your show unless you paid me lots of money of course which are not prepared to do.

But because I have this conference coming up at the end of the week called CPAC, which I'm surprised

you didn't know that.

Conference on Pre-Session and Ancient Knowledge, which is the end of this week for those living in Southern

California might want to take a take a look at the website.

Yeah tell everybody where it's where's that and what is it about?

It's Rancho Mirage which which is a great name,

and means there is no ranch.

But Rancho Mirage, which is somewhere near Palm Springs.

And it is about exactly what it says, conference on pre-session and ancient knowledge, and it

questions to begin with the whole, how shall I say, the whole scenario, the standard scenario about what causes procession, which is supposedly

a kind of a wobble of the earth caused by nobody knows exactly what. And the counter theory is that it isn't

that it's that there is a dwarf star of some sort orbiting the sun upsetting the balance of the celestial mechanical balance of it and that

makes a difference you say well what's the difference one way or another there's

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