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Greetings, problems and great souls.

All I'm gonna be a jumble.

Greetings friends it's Monday August 12th and we've got some Chapo coming at you

it's me Amber and Felix today but we are joined by a good friend who has been way too long since he's been on the show.

Joining us now on the show is the commander-in-chief of Secret Base, the king of Data Visualization, and possibly the only person in America

who's seen the movie Independence Day more times than I have.

Welcome back to the show John Boys everybody.

Well everybody so great to be here second time long time I feel like I must be the

Mark as can be of Chappo Guess in the sense that I was here briefly in 1994 and then you look back at like 2013 and I'm

41 and there was he here the whole time what the fuck?

Now you're speaking my language John, but we're going to spend the day. We're going to talk to you about some of the things you got going on on a secret base, but mainly like I'd'd like, we're here to talk about the history of the Reform Party

and just sort of a major forgotten American political figure. And like you know if it turns

or if you're listening to this show you probably don't remember this guy but he was a

guy that like emerged into my political consciousness when I like right around the

time I started to become aware of politics and I am of

course talking about the founder the God of the Reform Party Mr Ross Perrault.

So John in your series on the history of the Reform Party like we are now entering

into yet another presidential election and the two-party duopoly or really you

know one-party system continues unabated.

So like, what was it about Ross Perot and the Reform Party

and that's sort of like semi-crankish but semi-noble effort

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