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🗓️ 24 March 2025
⏱️ 117 minutes
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0:00.0 | This is a long time coming, I think. Agency since we've been talking is the topic, the thing that we've both been obsessed with the most. So introduce people to it. What's high agency? |
0:12.2 | High agency is, in my opinion, the most under-discussed and most important idea in, let's say, the 21st century. It's one of those ideas that once you see it, |
0:22.5 | you can't quite unsee it. It's everywhere. But the problem with it is it's quite hard to define. |
0:29.9 | And there's that Justice Potter-Stewart line of around when he was trying to define pornography, |
0:35.7 | when he's asked in a government inquiry, can you define pornography? |
0:38.3 | And he came back with the ultimate reply of, |
0:40.7 | well, I can't define it, but I know it when I see it. |
0:43.7 | So in lieu of the episode today, |
0:45.6 | I know you rent out all these beautiful studios. |
0:47.7 | I wanted to be the first guest ever to bring some props. |
0:51.0 | You brought props. |
0:51.2 | To kind of get people to experience high agency, |
0:53.7 | and then we can define it with words. |
0:55.2 | All right, cool. |
0:56.0 | First off is high agency in a meme. |
1:00.7 | Okay. |
1:01.0 | So as you can see here, you have person A and person B. |
1:05.9 | And essentially for the people that are listening, you have two people trapped on a desert island, |
1:11.2 | identical people, but with two different fundamental frames of reality. One is using the wood |
1:16.8 | to get help. The other is using the wood to kind of escape the island. And you kind of see this |
1:22.4 | idea that two people with exact same fundamental realities, but a completely different, like, low agency |
1:28.2 | here, high agency here. So you see high agency in a meme there. Then, and this one was |
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