#99 Penn Badgley - My Religious Conflicts With Playing a Killer
Within Reason
Alex O'Connor
4.9 • 1.8K Ratings
🗓️ 17 March 2025
⏱️ 116 minutes
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Summary
Penn Badgley is an actor best known for his roles in Netflix’s You and the popular drama series Gossip Girl. He is less known as a podcaster and member of the Baháʼí Faith, a religion which teaches that there is a historical unity between major world religions and their prophets, having itself developed out of a branch of Twelver Shia Islam in the 19th century.
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| 0:00.0 | Pen Badgley, welcome to the show. |
| 0:01.1 | Thank you for having me. |
| 0:02.2 | You've just finished up, Joe Goldberg. |
| 0:05.1 | You've been playing him for what, since like 2017? |
| 0:08.0 | Yeah, yeah, so just about seven years. |
| 0:11.2 | And now you're done. |
| 0:13.6 | I'm finished except for the release, you know? |
| 0:15.6 | Sure. |
| 0:16.6 | The release, which is its own kind of work, its own kind of... |
| 0:20.1 | Do you feel in character for the... |
| 0:21.6 | No, not even close. |
| 0:23.6 | The part of me that is... |
| 0:27.6 | That might match it is that there's always something grim about my relationship to the character, and therefore the whole thing, |
| 0:41.3 | because I am sort of tasked the one person throughout the entire apparatus |
| 0:48.3 | who kind of like, you know, it makes sense, I need to ground it. |
| 0:52.9 | Everyone else is allowed to enjoy it |
| 0:54.3 | as a piece of, um, entertainment or frothy pop, whatever, you know, but if I don't ground it, then it's like, |
| 1:01.9 | well, that's when I think we're in danger of consuming it in a way that is like, you know, |
| 1:07.5 | damaging to our, to our digestive system, you know what I mean? Because at the end of the day, he's a protagonist who is, who's, who's, who's, just, |
| 1:17.3 | he's, well, he's what he is. |
| 1:19.4 | He's a murderer and he's a manipulator and he's an abuser and all those things. |
| 1:23.8 | And those words are like, they're so, they're heavy, you know. |
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