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The Counsel of Trent

#994 - These Worship Songs Need To Be Abolished

The Counsel of Trent

Catholic Answers

Religion & Spirituality

4.82.4K Ratings

🗓️ 10 February 2025

⏱️ 13 minutes

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Summary

In this episode Trent examines how heretical church music harms the faithful. Mary, DID You Know? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NeN_4qKnrU4 Bishop Shawn McKnight's Decree: https://diojeffcity.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/10/Suggested-Mass-Settings-and-Prohibited-Hymns.pdf

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0:00.0

Last October, Bishop Sean McKnight of Jefferson City, Missouri, banned about a dozen hymns from being played at masses in his diocese.

0:07.6

Unfortunately, he reversed the ban a few weeks later, because if Susan from the parish council doesn't get to sing Table of Plenty, there will be hell to pay.

0:15.5

But in today's episode, I'm going to talk about what's wrong with these hymns and why they need to die.

0:38.4

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0:43.8

so I'm not one to judge anybody's musical preferences. I also appreciate having guilty pleasures

0:49.4

when it comes to religious hymns. For example, do I think on eagle's wings is cheesy? Yes. Do I cry when I hear

0:57.4

on eagle's wings played at a funeral? Every time. But the hymns I want to talk about today are the ones that

1:02.9

have bad theology. So if singing is praying twice, then singing bad theology drills that error

1:09.8

deeper into the soul than just hearing the error.

1:12.8

So let's start with a classic example of this with the song, All Are Welcome.

1:18.0

Whenever you say this is a bad hymn, you get accused of being, well, not welcoming.

1:23.4

But this song makes it sound like we're trying to recruit people into our club to boost membership,

1:29.5

not call people to repentance to receive the holy sacrifice of the Eucharist.

1:33.7

Here's some of the lyrics.

1:35.3

Let us build a house where love can dwell, and all can safely live,

1:39.6

a place where saints and children tell how hearts learn to forgive,

1:43.9

built of hopes and dreams and visions,

1:46.4

rock of faith and vault of grace, here the love of Christ shall end divisions. The hymn keeps repeating

1:52.1

the phrase, let us build a house, which makes it sound like we sinners create the church, instead of

1:59.6

the church creating or recreating us in Christ's image.

2:03.4

The USCB's doctrinal committee agrees with this, and it calls the hymn objectionable on ecclesiological

2:10.0

grounds. This hymn also makes it sound like God died on the cross, and now it's just up to us to

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