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Chopper's Politics

A brief Brexit rebellion and a bleak week for Boris

Chopper's Politics

The Telegraph

Brexit, Political, News, Uk, Coronavirus, Politics, Parliament

4.2 • 864 Ratings

🗓️ 24 March 2023

⏱️ 40 minutes

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Summary

This week two of the Conservative Party's obsessions reared their head yet again: Boris Johnson and Brexit. You may think you've everything there is to know about either subject but no, there's more, so Christopher Hope has invited a cavalcade of distinguished guests to the Red Lion pub to chew the fat on everyone's pet subjects.

Conservative Home Editor Paul Goodman gives his assessment of whether we could see a Boris by-election, and why he believes the former PM is doomed to channel Bilbo Baggins (no, really).

Plus former Levelling Up Secretary Simon Clarke MP gives his reasoning for rebelling against the Windsor Framework, and insists the public at large don't blame Johnson for any dubious "events" during lockdown.

And Minister for Veterans’ Affairs, Johnny Mercer MP, on how he thinks sunnier times are on the horizon for the Tories despite this week, and why he believes that the Sunak government will be the one to end veteran homelessness.


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0:00.0

Coming up on Chopper's politics.

0:04.0

I wouldn't dream of offering Boris Johnson advice.

0:06.0

If you offer Boris Johnson advice, he tends to say,

0:09.0

Yes, it's absolutely, you're quite, quite, quite, right.

0:11.0

And then he'll go and talk to the next person and change his mind.

0:19.0

Hello, I'm Christopher Hope,

0:20.0

Associate Editor for Politics at the Daily Telegraph, and welcome to Chopper's Politics Podcast.

0:26.6

It's been the week when two of the great obsessions of this podcast and the Toy Party

0:32.0

over the past six years dominated Westminster, Boris Johnson and Brexit.

0:38.7

Now Boris Johnson's chickens came home to roost somewhat with a former PM grilled over what he knew about

0:45.0

illegal parties during the COVID lockdowns in Number 10 Downing Street and an

0:50.7

expected rebellion over Ritchie Sunak's Brexit deal fizzled out.

0:55.0

With me on Chopper's Politics Podcast, we're discussing both of those key issues.

1:00.0

Conservative Holmes editor Paul Goodman will give us his analysis of whether it's over for Boris Johnson,

1:07.0

while Simon Clark MP, a former Cabinet Minister and Johnson loyalist, will say why he voted against the government

1:15.0

on the vote on the Windsor Framework. And finally Johnny Mercer, the outspoken

1:19.8

Veterans Minister, will be setting out his case for why it's not all lost for the

1:24.8

Tory party ahead of the next general election. But first up Paul Goodman is one of

1:29.9

the keenest observers of Conservative Party politics. He joins me now in the

1:34.8

Red Lion pub. Paul Goodman, editor of Conservative Home, a former colleague

1:39.2

at Telegraph, welcome to Choppers Politics Podcast in the Red Line Pub, your favorite horns?

1:43.7

Of course, of course it is.

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