Welcome to a special edition of the Positive University podcast. It's a conversation about God with John Gordon and Erwin McManus.

My name is Daniel Decker and I'm the co-host of Positive U. Erwin is the pastor of Mosaic in LA.

John and Erwin have known each other for over 15 years and have had many conversations

like this, but it's the first time they're doing it publicly.

This isn't just a conversation about God.

It's a conversation about some of the tough questions about God, religion and faith.

Questions like, why would God allow something to happen like it is right now. Why is their suffering? Where does

sacrificial love come from? Good versus evil and is there good without God? Why

religion? Why are we afraid to die?

And whether you're a person of faith or someone who's seeking answers,

this episode will impact you in a profound way.

Make sure you listen to the end, as Erwin's answer about death,

will give you a new outlook on life.

All right let's join John and Erwin.

All right, hey, this is John Gordon.

I'm here with my friend Erwin McManus.

Erwin, how you doing?

I'm doing great. How are you doing today?

Doing good. So for years we've had a lot of conversations about faith and a lot of times I get

emails or text or sometimes Twitter notifications from people who don't believe in

God, they would be classified as atheists and a lot of times they do that because I'm

someone who will share my faith on social media and so they'll say there is no God and

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