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A Good Read: Doon Mackichan and Bruce Robinson

Books and Authors

BBC

Society & Culture, Books

4.2824 Ratings

🗓️ 25 June 2024

⏱️ 40 minutes

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Recorded at the Hay Festival

SHUGGIE BAIN by Douglas Stewart ON THE BLACK HILL by Bruce Chatwin AGAINST NATURE by Joris-Karl Huysmans

Harriett Gilbert takes to the stage in the BBC Marquee at the Hay Festival for a special edition of the programme recorded in front of an audience. Actor and writer Doon Mackichan known for her outrageous character Cathy in the sitcom Two Doors Down chooses Shuggie Bain by Douglas Stewart as her good read. It's a touching but heartbreaking tale of a young Glaswegian boy's desperate efforts to save his mother Agnes from the alcoholism that ruins and degrades her. It won the Booker Prize in 2020. As we're in Wales Harriett's fitting choice is Bruce Chatwin's On The Black Hill an account of rural Welsh life in the mid 20th century. It's the story of two brothers' lives over 80 years and their connection to land and community. Bruce Robinson actor, director and writer of the hit film Withnail and I which has been adapted for stage chooses a book that features in the final scene of the film. The I character places two books in a suitcase at the end of the film, one of which is A Rebours - Against Nature by Joris-Karl Huysmans. Bruce confesses that he's not the book's biggest fan but the ensuing discussion provides an entertaining insight into books we might read when we're younger and how differently we feel about them in later life. It's the story of an eccentric recluse Jean des Esseintes in 19th century France who loathes people and creates a fantasy world for himself but ultimately suffers from his self-inflicted pretentious ennui. "I wish I hadn't chosen this book" proclaims Bruce Robinson as he introduces it. "I wish you hadn't chosen it" agrees Doon Mackichan. They then elicit a lot of audience laughter from their deconstruction of this seminal French novel that all three find pretentious.

This is a longer version of the broadcast programme.

Producer: Maggie Ayre

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0:00.0

You are about to listen to a BBC podcast and I'd like to tell you a bit about what goes into making one.

0:06.5

I'm Sadata Sese, an assistant commissioner of podcasts for BBC Sounds.

0:11.2

I pull a lot of levers to support a diverse range of podcasts on all sorts of subjects,

0:16.0

relationships, identity, comedy, even one that mixes poetry, music and inner city life.

0:22.4

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0:28.3

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0:33.6

So if you like this podcast, check out some others on BBC Sounds.

0:38.9

Hello, today we're at the Hay Festival of Literature and Arts, to give it its full name,

0:44.3

in a tent packed with readers eager to discover what books my guests will recommend.

0:49.6

Those guests are, first, the actor and comedian and writer Dune McKeehan star of among much else the TV shows

0:56.2

two doors down and smack the pony. Dune's first book, My Lady Parts, came out last year

1:02.7

and is shortly out in paperback. With her is the actor, director, screenwriter and novelist

1:08.3

Bruce Robinson, who most famously wrote and directed the classic

1:12.2

movie Withnail and I. More recently, Bruce has adapted Withnail for the stage, and having premiered

1:18.8

at the Birmingham rep, the play is due to open in London in September. Right, well, if we could start,

1:25.3

Do MacKicken, what have you chosen as a good read?

1:31.6

I've chosen Shuggy Bain by Douglas Stewart.

1:37.5

So it's the story, I suppose it's a love story between a mother and a son.

1:41.1

It's set in a broken Glasgow.

1:43.1

It's about a mother's addiction. It's about a son, a lonely son trying to care for his mother and

1:48.4

follows this journey through, I suppose, Thatcher's legacy of, yeah, no coal, no soul, no dole. That's

1:58.9

a bit of graffiti that was there. A broken generation where women

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