You are about to listen to a BBC podcast and I'd like to tell you a bit about what goes into making one.

I'm Sadata Sese, an assistant commissioner of podcasts for BBC Sounds.

I pull a lot of levers to support a diverse range of podcasts on all sorts of subjects,

relationships, identity, comedy, even one that mixes poetry, music and inner city life.

So one day I'll be helping host develop their ideas, the next fact-checking, a feature,

and the next looking at how a podcast connects with its audience, and maybe that's you.

So if you like this podcast, check out some others on BBC Sounds.

BBC Sounds, music, radio, podcasts.

Hello, you love books, so do we.

And my guests and I have each chosen one we particularly like to recommend,

though we may not always share each other's taste.

Let's see.

With me today, our first Tim Specter, best-selling author of The Diet Myth, Spoonfed, and Food for Life, which now has its own

cookbook. He's a co-founder of the Nutrition Service, Zoe, and is Professor of Epidemiology at

King's College, London. With Tim is the stand-up comedian and social media star Tatti McLeod,

whose mixed British and French heritage inspired her comedy hour, Fugue.

A big hit at last year's Edinburgh Fringe.

This November, Tattie's taking Fugue on nationwide tour.

And Tati, would you start us off?

What have you chosen as a good read?

Yeah, absolutely.

I chose a book called The Country of Others, or Leibes des Otres in the original language, by Le Le Le Simeonie.

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