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In this episode I'm going to be talking with Dorian Greenbaum about the recent discovery of a new

papyrus birth chart from Egypt that dates to the fourth century.

Dorian, welcome to the show.

Thank you very much, Chris.

I'm happy to be here to talk about this new chart.

Yeah, I'm excited and honored that you would join me for this because there's been a lot of excitement

over the past few weeks after the publication of this paper that you co-authored with Alexander

Jones about this discovery and a lot of astrologers, even a lot of modern astrologers who don't have, you know, background in ancient astrology were excited about this because it, you know, it sounds like an interesting discovery even from a layman's standpoint, but additionally from the standpoint of somebody who has an interest in background in Hellenistic astrology, this is actually a really exciting discovery,

essentially, isn't it?

Yes, I first knew about this chart very shortly after it was discovered by Alexander

Jones in Berlin in February 2009 and yeah I was kind of over the

moon when I heard about it because it's quite an amazing document and for me and the material

that I'm interested in in Hellenistic astrology this was kind of like knowing about the mother load you know

right yeah especially because of your background in the calculation of the lots which this horoscope contains and is a very

has a very important contribution to and other things so that's amazing that you've sort of known

about it since that time period since 2009 and then you guys finally got the paper out.

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