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A pastor's sermons on social justice causes conflict among congregation

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🗓️ 31 January 2025

⏱️ 13 minutes

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Schools, corporations, even churches, are wrestling with how to approach issues of racial and social justice in a highly polarized U.S. But what happens when people with shared political views disagree on how much is too much? For sponsor-free episodes of Consider This, sign up for Consider This+ via Apple Podcasts or at plus.npr.org. Email us at [email protected].

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0:00.0

In the name of our God, I ask you to have mercy upon the people in our country.

0:08.1

We're scared now.

0:10.1

There are gay, lesbian, and transgender children in democratic, Republican, and independent families.

0:19.7

Some who fear for their lives.

0:22.3

That's Episcopal Bishop Marianne Buddy, giving a sermon at Washington National Cathedral

0:27.2

earlier this month.

0:28.9

This was at an interfaith service held the day after the second inauguration of President

0:33.7

Donald Trump.

0:35.0

In her sermon, she spoke directly to the president, who was seated

0:38.9

up front with Vice President J.D. Vance and their families. Bishop Buddy went on to talk about

0:44.0

immigrants who may be at risk of deportation under new Trump policies.

0:47.7

I ask you to have mercy, Mr. President, on those in our communities whose children fear

0:52.8

that their parents will be taken away.

0:54.7

Reactions to her sermon lit up social media and national news outlets. The backlash from

1:00.4

Trump supporters was immediate and intense. Lorenzo Sewell is the pastor of Detroit's non-denominational

1:06.9

180 church, and he spoke at the Republican National Convention.

1:14.0

He attended that sermon and shared his outrage on Fox News. I cannot believe that she would use that moment to speak a demonic message

1:19.0

as if she was using the Bible.

1:21.3

She used her platform to practice theological male practice.

1:26.7

It was horrible.

1:27.5

It was the worst message I've ever been in in my life.

1:31.7

Consider this.

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