Hey friends, the Exiles of Babylon conference is just around the corner, April 3rd, 5th in Minneapolis, Minnesota.

We're going to be talking about the gospel and race after George Floyd.

We're talking about social justice and the gospel.

Is the evangelical church good for this country and transgender people in the church?

We also are having the Holy Post that is going to be there at the pre-conference

on April 3rd. We're going to have an after-party on Friday night and lots of fun stuff in

between. All the information is at the algebra.com. You won't want to miss this conference.

I'm looking forward to hanging out with as many of you as I can. My guest today is the one

and only Annie F. Downs,

who is a New York Times bestselling author speaker and podcast hosts of the Uber popular. That

Sounds Fun podcast. She's based in National Tennessee and also New York in Manhattan. Some of her

best selling books include Chase the Fun. That Sounds Fun. 100 days to Brave. Remember God.

And her about to be

released children's book called Where Did T.J. Go, a book for kids on grief and loss.

Would highly encourage you to check out this book. There's not really much out there like this

book that helps kids walk through trauma and grief, especially if a loved one has passed.

So I so enjoyed this conversation.

We just talked a lot about podcasting, life,

and just kind of went with a conversation blew us.

So it was loads of fun to get to know,

and we've known each other from a distance.

This first time I actually sat down and chat with her.

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