A stubborn lunatic’s guide to making great art

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PJ Vogt

Society & Culture, Business, Technology

4.8 • 3.9K Ratings

🗓️ 13 September 2024

⏱️ 54 minutes

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25 years ago, The Sopranos, the best television show ever created, premiered. This week, a new documentary called Wise Guy asks the question: how did a show considered so risky & uncommercial even get made? We’re interviewing Wise Guy director Alex Gibney about that question, and about how stubborn lunatics like him and David Chase got to make the projects they wanted to make. Incognito Mode, our ad-free, no-rerun, bonus episode feed. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	And So, you know, you're not.
0:13.0	Yeah.
0:15.0	So, yeah.
0:17.0	Oh, you know.
0:18.0	Oh, you know. Welcome to Search Engine, I'm PJ Vote. No question too big, no question too small, no question
0:31.1	to repetitively echoing in my head seven times a day.
0:35.0	Okay.
0:37.0	I've been telling stories professionally for 16 years.
0:42.0	I complain about work like anybody else, but the more honest part of me
0:45.9	always knows that really I'm getting away with something, being paid to make art you love is as close to a scam as you can run without being in legal danger.
0:56.1	It feels impossible that this is all true.
0:58.3	And the thing is, some years, it wasn't true.
1:01.5	When I first started in audio, podcasting didn't really exist.
1:04.7	It was radio.
1:06.0	And there would have been no business model
1:07.8	to support a show like the one you were listening to.
1:10.2	I've been here long enough that I've watched the business model arrive. I worked for a few years where there was tons of money in podcasting,
1:17.0	that I'm here in the era after, where a low tide ebbs again.
1:22.0	The state of things comes up on the show sometimes because one of the biggest questions
1:26.0	that actually preoccupies me day today is how are we going to get people to pay for this shit?
1:31.6	Free art, pay what you want is a funny thing to build a life on it preoccupies me and I know
1:38.0	it preoccupies me because lately when I see something good a movie a, a book, a live event, I don't think so much about the creative
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