Hello and welcome to a world to win a podcast from Tribune magazine. I'm Grace Blakely bringing

you your weekly dose of socialist news, theory and action from around the world.

This week I talk to Alex Press, staff writer at Jacobin about Amazon's ruthless exploitation

of its workforce, its deeply embedded culture of union busting and its avoidance of basic

labor regulation in its mission to become the everything store, as well as how workers are coming

together to resist the company. Thanks so much to all our amazing patrons who make the show possible.

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outro music. And now here is Alex Press on how and why Amazon has grown so powerful during the pandemic.

Hello Alex Press and thank you so much for joining me on this episode of a world to win how you

doing? I'm doing well, how are you? Yeah, you know, not bad. Can't complain. Today I want us to talk

about something that you've written about extensively and very well and we'll put some links to some

of Alex's articles in the description, which is the case of Amazon. So I want to talk a little bit

today about kind of the attempts to organize Amazon workers again about which you've written a great

deal. But can we start by just talking a little bit about why and how Amazon has done so well and

expanded so much over the course of the pandemic? Yeah, so that's a big question because Amazon has

basically taken over a huge chunk of the economy, both globally but especially in the United States over

the past year. So Amazon at the start of the pandemic was already on still growing, still one of

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