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A World to Win: Where Labour Won w/ Matthew Brown and Paul Dennett

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🗓️ 14 May 2021

⏱️ 41 minutes

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Summary

After a week that saw Keir Starmer’s Labour tank in the local elections, Grace speaks to two brilliant local leaders who managed to defy the downturn.

Matthew Brown is leader of Preston City Council and the driving force behind the Preston Model, as well as the co-author of Paint Your Town Red, which you can buy now from Repeater Books. Paul Dennett is the city-mayor of Salford, and a frequent contributor to Tribune, including a recent piece on why socialist Salford bucked the trend in the elections.

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to a world to win a podcast from Tribune magazine. I'm Grace Blakely bringing

0:17.7

you your weekly dose of socialist news, theory and action from around the world. In a week

0:22.8

during which Keir Starmer's Labour tanked in the local elections, I speak to two brilliant

0:27.2

local leaders who managed to defy this trend. Matthew Brown is the leader of Preston City Council

0:32.4

and the driving force behind the Preston model, as well as the co-author of Paint Your Town

0:37.0

Red, which you can buy now from Repeater Books. Paul Dennett is the city mayor of Sulford and

0:42.5

frequent contributor to Tribune magazine, including a recent piece on why socialist Sulford but the trend

0:48.2

in the recent elections. Thank you so much to all our amazing patrons who make the show possible.

0:53.7

If you want to access the full hour long episode of this show, as well as full length

0:57.0

interviews with previous guests like Naomi Klein and Dr Cornel West, support us on patreon at patreon.com

1:03.4

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1:07.9

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1:23.6

Hello Matthew Brown, and thank you so much for joining me on this episode of a world to win.

1:27.4

How are you doing today? I'm fantastic Grace. Thanks for the invite. Great. Congratulations

1:33.0

on a great result in Preston. Clearly quite different to what happened in many other parts of

1:37.8

the country. What do you think was your secret to that success? I think a lot of it is really

1:43.6

hard work and hard work in Canada. It's that's a big part of it, but I think having a clear set

1:49.0

of policies and ideas and strategy has really helped in the sense that we're quite a radical

1:55.2

labour council. We really do want to change the system where we are, support more democracy in

1:59.6

our economy, promote a real living wage affordable housing, but crucially give people more

2:04.6

ownership over the working lives. It's the hardest thing ever in the sense that local governments

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