Hello everybody and welcome back to Rev Left Radio.

On today's episode we have on Dawson Hicks, who is a representative from Project Hope to Abolish the Death Penalty.

Operating, his organization is operating out of Alabama.

And today we're going to talk about the death penalty, all the philosophical, legal, political,

and moral implications of it, how to fight against it, the barbarity of it, the needlessness

of it, how politicians use, the murdering of other people as a way to do PR stunts from Clinton and Bush all the way

up to modern day Trump. And we just cover so many issues, I think, in a really deep and profound

way. And then at the end, we provide a bunch of ways for people to get involved in a reminder

that we are here not merely to intellectualize

or as Marx would say, to interpret the world and understand it and analyze it abstractly,

but to get involved and change it.

And so there are many ways for people to get involved in.

This organization is in a deep red state in Alabama doing amazing work. And it's an organization that was founded by

prisoners in the Alabama carceral system on death row. And they've expanded to an inner and outer

forms of the organization. And they do a lot of really important work. And so it's just another

reminder that no matter where you live,

there's work to be done and there's organizations to join and there are contributions to make.

So this is a really, you know, wide ranging conversation with Dawson and representing a really

important organization. And I'm excited to share it with you today. And I also wanted to remind people that we have a union with our friends over at

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