This is a clip from the After Dark Show with Don Rogers.

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Do you think that the entire internet could possibly just be a tool to actually take energy away from the collective

because when you were describing the way it's all this connected to this and this,

but that's actually what we're supposed to be doing on a, well, an ESP level,

we're actually supposed to be able to have those connections with one another.

We're supposed to be able to do this without computers, without machines, without all this crap, right?

I think the internet was brought in so we don't figure these things out and figure out how to do them for ourselves.

Oh, I have to use a phone, just like I have to use a lighter.

Well, you used to be able to have pyrocy.

So it said that people at one point had pyrochinesis or telekinesis, right?

You didn't need a phone.

You didn't need a lighter.

Right.

I think that's, you know, keep us distracted, complacent, dumb, lazy, and you'll never figure

these things out.

Right.

Well, that's the entire game.

Exactly.

And if you think about it this way, how my, how my gifts work and how it works with

with dragons and energy, I'm literally connected, we're literally connected to everybody.

And most of that I don't realize, too, is you're going to sit there and do black

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