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Inside the Hive

After Trump, does truth matter?: A conversation with CNN’S Jake Tapper

Inside the Hive

Vanity Fair

News

4.21.5K Ratings

🗓️ 20 November 2020

⏱️ 65 minutes

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Summary

Jake Tapper, chief Washington correspondent for CNN, returns to “Inside the Hive” for an in-depth conversation on the state of the media in these bitter, waning days of the Trump era. While Trump and his legal team spin outlandish conspiracies to reverse the legitimate election of Joe Biden, Tapper separates fact from fiction, casts skepticism on a Trump “coup,” and considers the long-term damage Trump’s war on reality has done to American life. How much is the media—including CNN—culpable for his rise? Will his political influence stay alive or decline when he finally leaves office? And will the media, addicted to the ratings his chaos provides, continue to empower him with attention? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Emily Jane Fox, co-host of Inside the Hive, how are you doing?

0:07.0

Good morning, good afternoon to you.

0:09.4

I actually feel empowered Joe Hagen and I'll tell you why. You look empowered. I feel like I

0:16.5

look like I could use today's hair washed I. I am tuning all of the noise out. That's... There's a lot of noise to be

0:28.4

tuned out today. It is the ultimate self-care and I just feel like we're at a point where our president is

0:38.1

doing all sorts of things to try and remain relevant in a period where he is really irrelevant and that is probably one of

0:46.1

his greatest fears.

0:48.4

And I don't, it's like watching a crazy person on the street waving his hands around you don't need to watch it I mean it's

0:55.6

entertaining to watch and I know that we're all still on the edge of the last five years being crazy and having to tune into anything so we're just

1:07.0

totally addicted to the drama but I feel like I'm pulling myself out of it. You don't need to watch it anymore. It's like

1:14.0

it's completely completely unnecessary noise that is meaningless. Democracy is

1:19.8

working, the processes are working. You don't need to watch the raving lunatic who lost

1:24.9

like he just he's irrelevant so the more we tune into it the more we continue to

1:31.5

feed into the idea that he is relevant or what he's doing is relevant.

1:35.6

If you choose to tune it out, you're not only doing yourself a personal favor,

1:41.3

but you're making it so he doesn't matter anymore.

1:44.1

So just make it so he doesn't matter anymore.

1:46.7

Amen, sister.

1:47.8

I mean, that is, that's a call to arms for a lot of us,

1:52.4

not just in the media, but out there in media consuming world.

1:56.7

You don't have to look, you don't have to gawk.

2:00.4

And you know I've been saying this, it's been a mantra of mine, is like we can break our addiction to this spectacle

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