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Hey everybody. Welcome to Off the Vine. I'm your host, Caitlin Bristow, looking like a pile of shit because, well, my sweatsuit's cute, but I just got my stitches out of my eyeballs. I'm

wearing big glasses. My gray hairs are coming in. I'm greasy. I feel gross, but I just got my stitches out of my eyeballs. I'm wearing big glasses. My gray hairs are

coming in. I'm greasy. I feel gross, but nothing compares to Ali Fedatowski, aka Ali Mano now that

she's married and her experience on special forces where I don't even think they showered. They were

filming 20 hours of the day, eating fake cheese sandwiches, and pooping in outhouses that I'd never want to wish on my worst enemy.

So it's a very interesting conversation.

And of course, we talk a little bit about Bachelorette, too.

This is so funny that we're like getting together for a podcast when we've been talking about getting together just to hang and have a glass of wine.

And I'm like, we would make it work. Like, not make it work, but make it like actual work. Yeah.

To see each other. Because we're both like that. We're both like that. I wish it was like seven

o'clock at night and we were just having a glass of wine and still with mics in our hands because I feel like that would that would be good we should do that one time I'm down for that yeah I'm so down for that this is

exciting okay so obviously we'll talk about everything in life but you are on the upcoming season of

special forces which I always said no chance in hell for me really I well I, well, okay, I've never, I've watched certain episodes and seen what they go through.

Yeah.

And I'm like, you have to be one of the toughest people out there, which I think is what they're

trying to prove, like how tough are you, to do it.

But like, as soon as they show one person dropping in an ocean, I'm like, and for that

reason I'm out. Yeah. I don't know why that scares me. The most set of being dropped in the

ocean. Yeah, I don't know why that scares me. We did have life jackets on when they done this in the ocean.

Sure. Well, you do better. Yeah. But still, I don't know. There's just so many crazy things and we'll get into all of it because I want to know about your living conditions. I want to know how hard it was for you mentally, physically, emotionally, spiritually, like in

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