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In Our Time

Alice's Adventures in Wonderland

In Our Time

BBC

History

4.6 • 9.2K Ratings

🗓️ 14 March 2024

⏱️ 50 minutes

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Summary

Melvyn Bragg and guests discuss Lewis Carroll's book which first appeared in print in 1865 with illustrations by John Tenniel. It has since become one of the best known works in English, captivating readers who follow young Alice as she chases a white rabbit, pink eyed, in a waistcoat with pocket watch, down a rabbit hole that becomes a well and into wonderland. There she meets the Cheshire Cat, the Hatter, the March Hare, the Mock Turtle and more, all the while growing smaller and larger, finally outgrowing everyone at the trial of Who Stole the Tarts from the Queen of Hearts and exclaiming 'Who cares for you? You’re nothing but a pack of cards!'

With

Franziska Kohlt Leverhulme Research Fellow in the History of Science at the University of Leeds and the Inaugural Carrollian Fellow of the University of Southern California

Kiera Vaclavik Professor of Children’s Literature and Childhood Culture at Queen Mary, University of London

And

Robert Douglas-Fairhurst Professor of English Literature at Magdalen College, University of Oxford

Producer: Simon Tillotson

Reading list:

Kate Bailey and Simon Sladen (eds), Alice: Curiouser and Curiouser (V&A Publishing, 2021)

Gillian Beer, Alice in Space: The Sideways Victorian World of Lewis Carroll (University of Chicago Press, 2016)

Will Brooker, Alice's Adventures: Lewis Carroll and Alice in Popular Culture (Continuum, 2004)

Humphrey Carpenter, Secret Gardens: A Study of the Golden Age of Children’s Literature (first published 1985; Faber and Faber, 2009)

Lewis Carroll (introduced by Martin Gardner), The Annotated Alice: The Definitive Edition, (W. W. Norton & Company, 2000)

Gavin Delahunty and Christoph Benjamin Schulz (eds), Alice in Wonderland Through the Visual Arts (Tate Publishing, 2011)

Robert Douglas-Fairhurst, The Story of Alice: Lewis Carroll and the Secret History of Wonderland (Harvill Secker, 2015)

Colleen Hill, Fairy Tale Fashion (Yale University Press, 2016)

Franziska Kohlt, Alice through the Wonderglass: The Surprising Histories of a Children's Classic (Reaktion, forthcoming 2025) Franziska Kohlt and Justine Houyaux (eds.), Alice: Through the Looking-Glass: A Companion (Peter Lang, forthcoming 2024)

Charlie Lovett, Lewis Carroll: Formed by Faith (University of Virginia Press, 2022)

Elizabeth Sewell, The Field of Nonsense (first published 1952; Dalkey Archive Press, 2016)

Kiera Vaclavik, 'Listening to the Alice books' (Journal of Victorian Culture, Volume 26, Issue 1, January 2021)

Diane Waggoner, Lewis Carroll's Photography and Modern Childhood (Princeton University Press 2020)

Edward Wakeling, The Man and his Circle (IB Tauris, 2014)

Edward Wakeling, The Photographs of Lewis Carroll: A Catalogue Raisonné (University of Texas Press, 2015)

Transcript

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BBC Sounds, music radio podcasts.

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This is in our time from BBC Radio 4,

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and this is one of more than a thousand episodes

0:10.0

you can find on BBC Sounds and on our website. If you scroll down the page for this

0:14.5

edition you find a reading list to go with it. I hope you enjoy the program.

0:19.8

Hello Alice's Adventures in Wonderland first appeared in print in 1865.

0:26.0

The author's name was given as Louis Carroll with illustrations by John Tenial.

0:31.0

It has since become one of the best known works in English, captivating readers

0:35.4

who follow young Alice as she chases a white rabbit, pink-eyed, in a waistcoat with a pockerwatch,

0:41.3

down his rabbit hole and a well and into Wonderland.

0:45.0

There she meets the Cheshire cut, the hatter, the March Hare, the Mock Turtle and more,

0:50.0

all the while growing smaller and larger.

0:52.0

Finally, outgrowing everyone at the trial. all the while growing smaller and larger.

0:52.5

Finally, outgrowing everyone at the trial of who stole the tarts from the Queen of Hearts.

0:59.0

With me to discuss Alice's Adventures in Wonderland, our Francisco Colt, Lever Hume Research Fellow in the History of Science

1:05.9

at the University of Leeds and the inaugural Carolian Fellow at the University of Southern California.

1:11.2

Heer Baklavik, Professor of Children's Literature and Childhood Culture,

1:15.0

Queen Mary University of London, and Robert Douglas Fairhurst, Professor of English

1:19.5

Literature at Morland College University of Oxford.

1:22.8

Robert Douglas Fairhurst, what can we say about Lewis Carroll's early life?

1:28.4

Lewis Carroll was the pen name of Charles Lutwich Dodgson, which he chose in his mid-20s after rejecting various alternatives,

1:36.3

which included Edgar Coughwellis and Edgar UC West Hall.

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