Alison LaCroix on How History Rhymes at the Supreme Court

Against the Rules with Michael Lewis

Pushkin Industries

Business, Society & Culture, Sports

4.6 • 9.8K Ratings

🗓️ 15 October 2024

⏱️ 36 minutes

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Summary

It may seem like sports gambling got legalized overnight in the US. But it was in fact a winding road to get there. Michael Lewis speaks with legal historian and University of Chicago professor Alison L. LaCroix about all the factors that led to the Supreme Court overturning, in 2018, a federal law called the Professional and Amateur Sports Protection Act. And they explore why, in some eras of US history, the Court tends to lean towards “states rights” arguments.

For further reading: Alison LaCroix’s The Interbellum Constitution: Union, Commerce, and Slavery in the Age of Federalisms

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0:00.0	Pushkin
0:07.0	Hi I'm David Axel Rod
0:12.0	CNN Senior Political Commentator, former Senior Advisor to President Obama, and host of the
0:18.4	Ax files Podcast.
0:20.2	Join me each week as I interview key figure shaping our world from politics to the arts to sports
0:26.2	and beyond.
0:27.2	Listen on your favorite podcast app or ask your smart speaker to play The the axe files with David Axelrod. I'm Michael Lewis and this is against the rules. All the season we're looking at the
0:45.0	I'm Michael Lewis and this is against the rules.
0:52.0	All this season we're looking at the rise of sports betting,
0:55.0	America's newest form of legalized gambling.
0:58.0	Today it seems like it just suddenly happened,
1:01.0	but it was actually a long road, and I had to do a lot of background
1:04.8	interviews to fully understand it.
1:07.6	Today I want to share with you one of those conversations, because it's fascinating.
1:21.0	In our previous episode, we heard briefly from a legal historian and professor at the University of Chicago named Allison Larkroy. Allison and I actually talked a long time about the wider context for why.
1:27.0	In 2018, the Supreme Court decided to overturn a federal law called the Professional and Amateur Sports Protection Act.
1:34.5	That context goes back to the founding of the country actually, and tension between state
1:39.1	and federal jurisdictions.
1:41.2	The state of New Jersey brought up all of that when it argued a case now called Murphy
1:44.9	versus NCAA before the Supreme Court.
1:47.0	Do you know the case at all? I do I teach it in constitutional law. Yeah. Oh well here we go.
1:58.0	Are there any cases from way back when of the federal government telling states they can't change
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