Hello everyone. Welcome to another episode of Follow Him. My name's Hank Smith. I'm your host. I'm here with my co-host John by the way, who was fantastic.

John, we're in the second half of the war chapters today.

What you brought out with Dr. Boren last week was fantastic.

What are you looking forward to in the second half of the war chapters?

There's so much in all of these.

We're going to see the influence of family,

the influence of watching others sacrifice for you,

and how that helps you want to get involved and always the why are we

fighting this is a hard thing why are we doing this and Mormon as the abridger is very careful to remind us over and over again of why these conflicts are continuing.

I'm looking forward to what you have to offer this week.

Also looking forward to what our guest has to offer John. We're with Dr. Justin top today.

Justin, when you think of these chapters at the end of the book of Alma, what do you think of?

What are we going to do today?

I am so excited. I love these chapters. This is the continuation of the war

chapters that we talked about last time, but I want you to look for three themes. The first word to think of is struggle.

This is all about struggle, something that all of us know a little bit about in our lives.

The second word is courage. We're going to learn about courage how to access that courage to

motivate us in life. And then the last word is lenses and that may not make sense

right now. It's all about understanding lenses and perspective and how they affect us.

I love coming into it with a plan.

John, some of our listeners might be thinking, wait, we already heard from Dr. Top back in Alma 30. This is a different Dr. Top. Can you introduce him?

Yes, that we had Dr. Brent Top. This is his son Dr. Justin Top and Dr. Justin Top is an assistant professor in ancient

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