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Alternate Realities

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🗓️ 23 February 2025

⏱️ 23 minutes

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Summary

Conspiracy theories are all over social media. For some, that's as far as they go. But for reporter Zach Mack, conspiracy theories have infiltrated his family. After Mack's father became obsessed with conspiracy thinking, family relationships began to fray. Today on The Sunday Story, a look at what happens to a family when the people in it can't agree on what's true and what isn't.

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I'm Aisha Roscoe, and this is a Sunday story where we go beyond the news to bring you one big

0:06.9

story. Since the COVID pandemic, lots of conspiracy theories have been floating around the

0:13.0

internet. For some, these ideas and the conspiracy thinking that fuels them may not have

0:20.0

had much of an impact.

0:22.0

But for others, they can feel urgent and personal.

0:26.5

This is the case for journalist Zach Mack.

0:29.3

Mack's father holds a number of conspiratorial views.

0:33.0

He believes, among other things, that a shadowy cabal secretly runs the world, a group he calls the globalist.

0:41.9

Last year, as Zach tried to make sense of his dad's beliefs, he began recording their conversations, with his dad's permission, of course.

0:51.2

Here's a moment from one conversation in which Zach's dad

0:56.6

urges Zach to start stockpiling emergency supplies. So you really want to store up two months

1:04.4

worth of food and water because they probably won't be able to pump water throughout the city

1:10.3

because that's all controlled by computers and electronics.

1:13.6

And the EMP is going to shut down everything electronic.

1:17.6

I know, I know it sounds like conspiracy theory, but they're going to do this.

1:22.6

This is what they're planning and I just want to have you be prepared, okay?

1:28.9

Today on the Sunday story, a look at what happens to one family in this age of misinformation

1:34.7

and conspiracy theories, a conversation with reporter Zach Mack when we return.

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