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Yes can you hear me doctor Gorka my gosh look at that lovely studio you've got to be soft have you been elicitly sunbathing Charlie Kirk.

Not quite you know we're here in Arizona and rumor is that the sunlight kills the virus so I I've been doing my fair participation in stopping the spread that is a very wise move we are glad this is really very exciting very cool very cool you have coined allegedly you've texted me I know what a rent seeker is in economic terms economic science but you have used the phrase.

Crisis seeker Charlie Kirk founder and president of turning point USA on the front lines of our culture war what is a crisis seeker.

Well look doctor Gorka you said plenty of times and a lot of people in the conservative movement have accurately said that.

That Rama manual would brag about never let a crisis going to waste and now we've seen that Nancy Pelosi has these long held policy objectives that she wants to put forward in Congress so we have variable B and variable C which is don't let the crisis go to waste let's accomplish things we always want to accomplish but then isn't rational and logical to try to find variable A which is what if people out there actually want to go find a crisis because.

And this is the logical way to reverse engineer that maybe there's some people that don't want this crisis to end but even worse what if there were people that actually have been looking for a crisis to get these long held policy objectives past forward and I think it's doctor Gorka this is an important conversation because we now need to have a conversation about how do we get here in the first place where these lockdowns the right measure why.

Why did Denmark take the lead in reopening schools why was Sweden able to do what they did and and the president has done a phenomenal job of weathering this storm and of getting America back open the people around the president need to be asked and held accountable for the prognostications and the projections that they put forward that were gospel for example the imperial college model the imperial college model in the United Kingdom it's being said is one of the biggest data failure.

There's an in human history my question is was it done intentionally to try to get clicks and try to get attention because it said that at the even the most conservative projections millions of people might die we now know that's not true but look at the cost that we have now endured because of it and now you see Georgia and Florida reopening rather effectively and against a lot of the other projection so I'm just asking the question who are the people that actually might seek a crisis because we know they don't let them go to waste and we know once they find a crisis they put forward these

long held policy promises and objective.

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Charlie can I am not this isn't an attempt to push back but but there's a kind of conundrum here there's a catch 22 or a paradox that

we work this experiment in freedom has been such a success for more than two centuries because we're a republic of states we have this unique system it's a little bit the Swiss overdid it with the

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