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Worldly

America is finally leaving Afghanistan

Worldly

Vox Media Podcast Network

News, Politics, News Commentary

4.41.8K Ratings

🗓️ 15 April 2021

⏱️ 52 minutes

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Summary

Zack, Jenn, and Alex talk about President Joe Biden’s announcement that all remaining US troops will withdraw from Afghanistan by September 11, 2021 — the 20th anniversary of the 9/11 attacks that launched the war. They discuss what the US withdrawal means for the near-term future of Afghanistan, why Biden finally made the tough call that his predecessors couldn’t (or wouldn’t), and what that decision tells us about how Biden sees the future of US military engagement abroad. References: Here’s Alex’s Vox story on Biden’s announcement to withdraw all US troops by September 11. Alex interviewed experts making the best case for and against an Afghanistan withdrawal. Biden’s Afghanistan withdrawal speech is on the White House’s website. The Georgetown Institute for Women, Peace, and Security ranked Afghanistan as the second-worst country for women. The BBC reports that the Taliban is already claiming it won the war. The Wall Street Journal reported how the US is looking to other countries to base its counterterrorism forces. Here’s the story by the Daily Beast’s Spencer Ackerman on how Biden defended the war on terrorism. Hosts: Zack Beauchamp (@zackbeauchamp), senior correspondent, Vox Jennifer Williams (@jenn_ruth), senior foreign editor, Vox Alex Ward (@AlexWardVox), White House reporter, Vox Consider contributing to Vox: If you value Worldly’s work, please consider making a contribution to Vox: bit.ly/givepodcasts More to explore: Subscribe for free to Today, Explained, Vox’s daily podcast to help you understand the news, hosted by Sean Rameswaram. About Vox: Vox is a news network that helps you cut through the noise and understand what's really driving the events in the headlines. Follow Us: Vox.com Newsletter: Vox Sentences Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

It seems like, finally, after a really, really long time, the United States may be ending

0:15.2

its presence in Afghanistan.

0:17.9

President Joe Biden announced this week that the U.S. would withdraw all of its combat

0:21.5

forces by September 11, 2021, the 20th anniversary of the September 11 attacks, and very close

0:28.1

to 20 years of the United States being in Afghanistan.

0:33.0

Is this going to happen really?

0:34.8

And what does it mean for both Afghanistan and the United States if it does happen?

0:39.0

Those are the questions that we're going to talk about today on Worldly Part of the

0:41.3

Vox Media Podcast Network.

0:42.8

I'm Zach Beechim, here with Jen Williams and Alex Ward.

0:46.0

Hey.

0:47.0

Man, news 20 years in the making, my goodness.

0:49.8

Yeah, it's kind of weird that this has lasted so long.

0:54.2

Even narcissistically, it reminds me that I'm older than I thought I was, because I really

0:59.2

remember that I was very aware of the beginning of the Afghanistan war, like I was around,

1:06.7

I was thinking I was not an adult, but like, you know, a cognizant human being.

1:11.6

And we've been fighting it for 20 years, like certainly longer than my entire adult life.

1:15.8

It's wild.

1:16.8

Yeah, it was definitely an adult, so.

1:18.8

Okay.

1:19.8

You're older.

1:20.8

Sorry, Jen.

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