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A lot of politicians, if they're accusing like the Pelosi or the Clinton class,

really don't know what ordinary people are feeling, right?

And for some reason, he's able to be tuned in on the culture wars in ways that, like, surprised me.

He's chronicly online.

Yes, he is.

I was just about to say, let me tell you what the through line is for me that resolves.

I would say about 80% of this for me.

And I'm like you, I've spent a lot, a lot, a lot of time thinking about this and kind of

like holding that voter up in like perverse fascination, like what's happening in there. And I do think

your point gets at it, Trevor, which is I'm not sure that understand is the right word. I don't

think you need to understand to act. Yeah. To be able to observe something accurately doesn't mean you diagnose it properly.

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