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Americano: how is round one of Trump’s deportations plan going?

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🗓️ 30 January 2025

⏱️ 32 minutes

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Summary

Colombia has agreed to accept military aircraft carrying deported migrants from the US – avoiding a trade war between the two countries. Donald Trump had threatened sanctions on Colombia to punish it for initially refusing military flights following a rapid immigration crackdown. What are the challenges of deportation flights, and what's Trump's vision for Latin America? Freddy Gray is joined by Todd Bensman, Fellow at the Center for Immigration Studies, and author of 'Overrun'. 

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0:30.3

Hello and welcome to the Americano podcast, a series of discussions about American politics,

0:39.4

power and prejudices. It is 2025 and Donald Trump is president once again of the United States.

0:45.5

We will, of course, be following the moves of the Donald's and his second administration very closely.

0:48.9

However, it won't just be politics for us this year.

0:54.3

We'll also talk a lot and cover American culture, life and the arts.

0:59.5

I should also remind you, because my producer Natasha will not let me hear the end of it,

1:02.0

that we are on Spectator TV.

1:05.1

So head to our YouTube channel to watch that.

1:14.4

Today we're going to be talking about immigration and deportations, because that's very much in the news in America at the moment, following the beginning of the second Trump presidency,

1:22.1

and a fairly breaks-off approach that the Trump administration is adopting towards its immigration promises

1:30.0

and trying to secure the border.

1:33.2

I'm delighted to be joined by Todd Benzman, a friend of the show, I can say,

1:37.7

and also a fellow at the Centre for Immigration Studies,

1:41.6

as well as the author of Overrun,

1:43.9

how Joe Biden Unleashed the

1:45.7

Greatest Immigration Crisis in US History. Todd, the first thing to talk about, I think, probably

1:53.0

is Colombia, because there was quite a lot of drama yesterday back and forth between the

1:59.0

Colombian government and the White House,

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