Americano: Will Trump make Gaza great again?

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🗓️ 5 February 2025

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When Netanyahu visited the White House, Donald Trump said in a press conference that the US could take over the Gaza Strip and suggested the permanent resettlement of its 1.8 million residents to neighbouring Arab countries. It has sparked global condemnation raising questions about where the Gaza citizens could be resettled to, and how this could impact the hostage negotiations. To discuss this and the conflict more widely, Freddy Gray is joined by former Israel spokesperson Eylon Levy.

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0:00.0	Hello and welcome to the Americano podcast, a series of discussions about American power,
0:12.3	politics and prejudices. The election is over, but the Americano never stops, and there will be a lot to talk about with the second Trump administration.
0:23.7	And so we'll bring you more and more Americano, because judging from the feedback, that's what you guys want.
0:30.2	So please keep listening.
0:32.0	Hello and welcome to the Americano show.
0:35.0	Today we are going to be talking about Donald Trump's plan to build a new Riviera
0:41.3	in the Middle East. That's because at an extraordinary press conference yesterday, alongside
0:46.4	Prime Minister Bibi Netanyahu, Trump outlined his plan for the US to take over Gaza
0:52.4	and possibly turn it into some kind of resort. We don't quite know.
0:58.5	The idea would be that the Palestinian people would be resettled, possibly in Egypt, possibly in
1:06.3	Jordan. Donald Trump was a bit vague about that. It's all pretty extraordinary stuff. And I'm very pleased
1:14.6	to be joined by Elon Levi, who was a spokesman for the Israeli government, to discuss what he
1:23.1	thinks. Elon, first of all, I think I just need to start by asking you, what did you make of it all?
1:28.4	Extraordinary indeed. There is astonishment in Israel, people trying to work out whether President Trump was being serious, whether this is a hot air balloon to prepare for a negotiation.
1:37.9	But I think the president puts his finger on a very real problem. It is impossible to rebuild Gaza as long as its government, Hamas, says that Israel
1:46.3	must be destroyed. It is impossible for Gaza to be rebuilt peacefully, as long as its government
1:52.4	says that it will continue to wage war against Israel again and again until Israel is destroyed.
1:57.9	And it's impossible for Gaza to be rebuilt permanently while the world
2:02.4	continues to tell the people of Gaza that they are refugees and they are only there temporarily.
2:08.0	Gaza is rubble now. And Gaza is rubble because its government Gaza decided to declare war on
2:13.9	October 7th. And it decided to wage that war from inside and under civilian buildings.
2:19.7	And there is a major question now of how we rebuild Gaza. And I think what's most interesting is
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