Amicus | The Rule of Law Took A Very Dark Turn This Week

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🗓️ 22 March 2025

⏱️ 78 minutes

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If you’re overwhelmed by the sheer volume of lawless acts, constitutional crises (we count five), and huge Trump administration losses in court this week - honestly, same. But if anyone can render this swirling storm of lawsuits and orders and injunctions legible, and put them in terms that can help make sense of this moment, it’s Dahlia Lithwick. On this week’s show, Dahlia is first joined by Quinta Jurecic, a fellow in Governance Studies at the Brookings Institution and a senior editor at Lawfare, to discuss the deeply worrying shift in the Trump regime’s posture toward judges and the rule of law, that’s been playing out inside and outside the courts this week. Next, Dahlia speaks with a lawyer who secured a big win against Elon Musk and DOGE this week in one of the USAID cases. Mimi Marziani explains the litigation strategy, and its limits. Want more Amicus? Join Slate Plus to unlock weekly bonus episodes with exclusive legal analysis. Plus, you’ll access ad-free listening across all your favorite Slate podcasts. You can subscribe directly from the Amicus show page on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. Or, visit slate.com/amicusplus to get access wherever you listen. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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1:03.7	Hi, I'm Dahlia Lithwick.
1:05.5	Welcome back to Amicus.
1:07.0	This is Slate's podcast about the courts and the law and the Supreme Court.
1:11.1	Obviously, the Trump administration is pushing the envelope and doing, in my view,
1:16.2	a very dangerous dance with the judiciary.
1:20.5	I think at a certain point you have to start looking at what do you do when you have a rogue judge.
1:24.8	Why is a judge trying to protect terrorists who have invaded our country
1:29.0	over American citizens? There are at least two factions. One of them wants to go full speed ahead
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