John, how would you describe the Ellis James and John Robbins podcast on BBC Sounds?

In a word, hmm, award-winning chat for a digital Britain.

How about you, Ellis?

Hmm, for me it's a pulsating hub of world-class content respected by generations to come as the

absolute zenith of digital artistry.

You don't think we're over-selling it, do you?

Yeah, by quite a lot. The Ellis James and John Robbins

podcast out on Tuesdays and Fridays. Listen on BBC Sounds. This is five live boxing.

A world title fight between two British women, both of whom hold world titles.

Hey, it happens, but this one is special.

Sheffield, this Saturday, Sandy Ryan, Terry Harper,

lots of pride at stake, lots of glory at stake,

and lots of history at stake.

It's a big fight week, and it's a big fight week and it's a big fight. I'm Steve Bunce and this is

five live boxing. So sometimes when you get together to make a podcast or do an interview

you get I'm not gonna lie you get exotic venues you buy the ocean somewhere you're in Las Vegas you're in New York

today I'm in a car park it's raining I'm on the outskirts of Sheffield and I'm in a basement gym underneath an Iceland and an

Audi but don't worry I'm in good company. Natasha Jonas is with me now.

Tasha Sandy Ryan against Terry Harper, one thing it has to be, I would argue, is a good fight.

It has to be a good fight.

I can't honestly see it being anything other than a good fight you know they're both you know very

experienced well Sandies are very experienced amateur and she's had a lot a lot of

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