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Angry Planet

An Insider's Critique of Israel

Angry Planet

Matthew Gault

War, Politics, Conflict, Government, History, News

4.3882 Ratings

🗓️ 22 April 2024

⏱️ 63 minutes

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Summary

The war between Israel and Hamas, which began on Oct. 7 when terrorists overran the Gaza frontier and killed more than 1,200 Israelis, is now more than six months old. More than 100 Israeli hostages are still being held in Gaza.


Israel, in return, has killed more than 30,000 Palestinians, with two thirds of that number likely to be civilians, including women and children. There are negotiations for a ceasefire going on—at least sporadically—but Dan Perry, former Associated Press bureau chief in the region, says that Hamas isn't playing by the same rules as Israel, or anyone else.


Hamas, according to Perry, welcomes the deaths of Palestinian civilians. Anyone and everyone can be a martyr for Hamas's cause, which is not peace, but a complete destruction of Israel. Whoever must be sacrificed in the process, well, other people's live are a price Hamas is willing to pay.


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0:17.0

Hello, Dan Perry, joining us from the Middle East live from Israel. It's Dan Perry. How are you?

0:27.0

All right. That's what else can be expected.

0:30.0

Under the circumstances. So what are the circumstances? Tell us about. You you know I'm always reminded of that wonderful film this is final

0:36.0

where I will one of them David St. Hubbins or something is asked how he is, you know, holding up so well and he says I probably would be more upset if I wasn't under such heavy sedation.

0:48.2

I think applies to most people you talk to in Israel and probably Palestine.

0:51.8

So, um, can you tell every talk to in Israel and probably Palestine.

0:52.6

So can you tell everybody, Dan, a little bit

0:56.2

about who you are and why it is

0:59.4

that we might be talking with you today?

1:01.8

Well, you're talking today because of the global obsession with everything that happens in

1:06.3

Israel.

1:07.3

I was a long time foreign correspondent. I worked with the Associated Press for over a quarter century.

1:16.2

And in the context of that career, that took me to Israel more than one time.

1:22.1

I was a reporter here in the mid 90s. I was a Bureau Chief for Israel and the Palestinian territories during the second in Difada in early 2000s. Then I was the AP regional editor for Europe and Africa based out of London, but then back in the Middle East,

1:39.0

based out of Cairo running the entire Middle East during the Arab Spring, so-called Air Spring and the

1:46.4

and sanities that followed. And when I left AP, four or five years ago, I pitched up in Israel, which is a place that I have strong family ties to and spent some

1:58.0

years here as a child as well.

2:00.0

So here I am. And all hell sort of broke loose,

2:06.0

to a degree that was previously unknown even here

2:09.9

in October 7. Is this particular

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