An Interview with Ted Olson

Against the Rules with Michael Lewis

Pushkin Industries

Business, Society & Culture, Sports

4.6 • 9.8K Ratings

🗓️ 15 November 2024

⏱️ 36 minutes

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Constitutional lawyer and former US Solicitor Ted Olson recently died at the age of 84. Olson represented the state of New Jersey in its efforts to overturn a federal ban on sports gambling. Those efforts succeeded, as we hear in our episode "Welcome to the Garden State." But Olson and Michael Lewis talked about many other aspects of his vivid legal career. We're offering their full conversation today.

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0:00.0	Pushkin.
0:09.0	Planet Money helps you understand the economy.
0:11.8	We find the people at the center of the story.
0:14.2	Garbage in New York.
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0:17.7	We show you how money influences everything.
0:20.7	Tell me what you like by telling me how you spend your money.
0:24.6	And we dig until we get answers.
0:26.6	I had a bad feeling you're going to bring that up.
0:28.5	Planet Money finds out.
0:29.8	All you have to do is listen.
0:31.5	The Planet Money podcast from NPR.
0:33.3	Thank you. Hey there, Michael Lewis here. I'm dropping into the feed today with some sad news.
0:47.1	One of the voices you may have heard if you listen to our third episode this season is no longer with us.
0:52.6	The constitutional lawyer, Ted Olson.
0:55.5	He died November the 13th in Virginia at the age of 84.
1:00.0	Olson argued the case Murphy v. the NCAA that led to the legalization of sports gambling in the
1:05.5	United States, but his career as a lawyer has been about so much more than that.
1:10.7	For example, he argued the case that allowed same-sex couples to get married.
1:15.0	He defended the rights of dreamers, people brought to this country, undocumented, as children.
1:20.7	He also argued for a lot of Republican causes, including the case that got George W. Bush declared the winner of the 2000 presidential election,
1:28.2	and he later served as U.S. solicitor under Bush.
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