I'm April Voki and you are listening to Anckered. My chance to speak with some of the most

influential people involved in the outdoors today. Join me as I sit down with my guests to learn more about their careers, opinions, history,

relationships, and life both indoors and out.

This week's episode is a bit of a departure from the norm, but I'm happy to stand behind it nonetheless.

When my good friend and past podcast guest Louis Cahill reached out and suggested we sit down together with Andrew Grilos, I knew it was going to be a special conversation.

So in this episode of Anckered, the three of us gathered to discuss a topic that's close to our hearts,

men's mental health in the world of flyfishing.

The conversation is admittedly a bit scattered, but I think that adds to its authenticity.

Throughout our discussion, we shared personal stories, insights, and reflections on the unique mental health challenges

that men in the fly fishing community often faced.

From the pressures of maintaining a tough exterior to the stigma surrounding seeking help,

we covered a lot of ground.

Amidst the conversation, there's a clear message that I hope resonates with anchored listeners.

You're not alone.

No matter what you're going through, there's always someone out there who's willing to listen and

help. Whether it's a friend, a family member, or a professional counselor, reaching out for support

is a sign of strength, not weakness. So as you listen to this episode I encourage you to reflect on your own

mental health journey and if you find yourself struggling don't hesitate to reach

out for help. You deserve to live a happy and fulfilling life both on and off the water I want to talk about it from the beginning so let's let's do this let's go on the record as of now and I'm

going to lead you both in we'll hop right into it unless you have any questions

before we start I think so you're the boss lady. Let's run the show. I just

hear to listen. Louis. Yes ma'am. It has been a long time since we've seen it.

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