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🗓️ 21 November 2019
⏱️ 68 minutes
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0:00.0 | Christianity as a whole, stop being compelling for me and stop making sense to me until I started speaking up about racial injustice. |
0:14.0 | This is Andre Henry, a writer, speaker, musician, and activist with a deep passion for racial justice and social change. |
0:22.0 | Today on the podcast, he's being interviewed by host William Matthews, the talking about anti-racism. |
0:31.0 | So as always, I hope you'll open your mind and your heart. Welcome to the Liturgist Podcast, everybody. |
0:40.0 | You said in 2016, or you said in 2019 about 2016, you wrote, I quote, I was a much better Christian before 2016. |
0:49.0 | I was a student of theology and impassioned preacher and music leader in an avid church gore. |
0:54.0 | That was until I found out that the Christianity I grew up in might actually be for white people. |
1:00.0 | The way you open your eyes, why would he say white people? |
1:05.0 | What? |
1:07.0 | What? |
1:09.0 | Well, that's what I was getting like. So I think these questions are connected, right? Why is this story relevant? |
1:15.0 | It's because in 2016, I had like this, there was a breaking point for me where I wouldn't say that I needed to decide if I was going to be a Christian or not, |
1:29.0 | because I didn't know that morning that I was going to make that decision. |
1:33.0 | All I knew is that for maybe a year or so, I had begun speaking up about racial injustice more frequently, more clearly, more forcefully, more passionately than I had ever done in my life. |
1:52.0 | And that I had a lot of people that were giving me a lot of pushback about it. |
1:56.0 | And most of them were people that I knew from South Easter. |
2:01.0 | Wow. So you're saying you're white Christian friends or university friends? |
2:05.0 | Yeah, my white Christian friends that, and many of them, people that were in the ministry training programs, the people who studied theology alongside me, were like the people who were giving me the most pushback. |
2:18.0 | Even some people that I considered mentors were like, I mean, I remember having long conversations with one guy that I considered like a spiritual father. |
2:31.0 | And basically, he's debating me on whether or not the social misery of black people is our own fault. |
2:43.0 | And whether or not white America should care. |
2:48.0 | Someone that I call father. Right? |
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